Monday, January 19, 2009

Responding to Ronan: Atheism as religion

Blogger: Mondo Cane - Post a Comment: "Many vocal atheists like Richard Dawkins (who I consider a 'fundamentalist' atheist!) seem to be of the belief that 'religion' can be dangerous to society, citing examples such as terrorist attacks, etc. This does have a ring of truth, especially when fundamentalists are involved. But for me, atheism IS just another form of religion [specifically one believing # gods=0, as opposed to monotheism: # gods=1 or polytheism: # gods>1!]."

There is definitely a difference between the "Atheism as religion" and the brand of atheism I profess. I don't think it is a very good idea to push atheism on others, but not for the reasons you list: more simply, I believe it quite pointless to try to "convert" overtly irrational people with a rational argument. Not that I have not tried in the past, and with educated and intelligent people who were, as I soon found out, not quite rational. Irrationality is, of course, inviolable as much as fundamentalism.

Is religion dangerous for society? I would disagree with Dawkins on that one as well. Misguided people are definitely dangerous for society; people lacking empathy, social skills; self-centered people, violent people, ignorant people; mentally ill and severely irrational people; and of course, every combination of the above. It would however be a difficult argument to make that the existence of religion in itself affects those categories of individuals to the point of being danger for society. Every religion is nothing but a story that people tell each other for various reasons. Its power is just proportional to the desire of people to accept the story as revelation of some mysterious Truth. A story does not make people explode in public places.

A better argument, in some contexts, could be that severe ignorance, poverty and desperation may lead to religion and sometimes to martyrdom as well. As we know, educated people living in a functional society with access to resources and support are much less likely to do that.

However this debate is important for at least three reasons:
  1. there is a large bias in some societies about considering religious expression as dignified as forms of gnosis. I believe it is absurd to give completely unfounded assertions the same importance of the scientific process, for instance.
  2. there is a large bias in some societies against people who choose not to profess a religion. I denounce that as obscurantist and unfair.
  3. there is a tendency in many societies to appeal to religious authorities for opinions of an ethical nature. I strongly believe that very often, these people are among the least qualified to put forward statements about ethics for their less than spotless history (past and present), and the simple fact that their belief being not universal makes any general statement completely unfounded. Better would be to adhere to a better form of ethics based on principles people can agree on without the intervention of metaphisical entities, burning bushes and the like. We should be way past that, by now.

Friday, January 16, 2009

That urge to buy


Could it be that working on a large university campus condemns me to all sorts of weird encounters? Or have you find yourself in the same predicament?

I visited the restroom down the hall today just to hear some guy talking on his cell from one of the stalls. Expected restroom noises provided the background for his telephone purchase, and he gave out credit card number, expiration date and security code. Let us leave aside for a second the misplaced trust in your fellow restroom user (maybe he was thinking, they might not be able to use a pen or a voice recorder?). Let us ignore also common respect for the person on the other end of the line. My real question is, what would you really need to buy right then and there? Massive quantities of Preparation H? Adult diapers?

Or maybe the association is looser: an ejectable seat for your Aston Martin? A new armchair for the living room? The sequel to the book you just finished during your current endeavor?